Login / Signup

Free Access

Advent Sale - Save $131!

Bargaining With God?

Sermon
When Moira's husband was killed in a car crash at the age of 35, Moira was understandably devastated. For days she was in shock and hardly knew what she was doing. And since she'd kissed Mike goodbye as usual that morning, she couldn't believe that he was really dead, even though the police arrived at her place of work and told her. But Moira just couldn't take it in.

Then, as it eventually began to dawn on her that it really was true and that she'd never see Mike again, she felt utter, crushing despair. It was then that she began to bargain with God.

"God, don't let it be true and I promise I'll attend church every Sunday for the rest of my life."

"God, if you'll let me wake up and discover this was just a nightmare, I swear I'll say my prayers every single day for ever more."

"God, I'm sorry I haven't taken as much notice of you as perhaps I should, but I promise I'll be better in the future. I really will worship you properly if only you bring Mike back to life again. I'll do anything you say, anything at all."

Of course, none of it worked. Mike was dead and Moira was a widow and God did not hear her bargaining. But God did support Moira all through that awful time of bereavement and did enable her to emerge at the end as a stronger person than she had been, and as somebody who was able find happiness again despite the terrible trauma of that time.

Many of us bargain with God in all sorts of circumstances, especially as a reaction to bereavement. Mostly nothing happens and we're confirmed in our perhaps hidden belief that God won't hear us, even though he may hear other people. If something does happen, such as when we pray for a fine day for the church fete and promise God that we'll never forget him if only he'll do this small thing for us, we usually promptly forget our side of the bargain the minute the church fete is over.

God doesn't work through bargaining and never has, because God is not capricious. God doesn't decide off the top of his head that one person should die in a road accident but that another should live. What God has done is to set certain natural laws into motion and when those laws are broken, there are inevitable consequences.

One natural law is that alcohol affects the brain, so the inevitable consequences of drinking alcohol are that we're less in control of ourselves when we drink alcohol. Another natural law is that if our bodies aren't fed, we lose weight. And yet another natural law is that if our sould aren't fed, we lose spiritual weight.

God has given us all free will, to exercise as we wish. God will never over rule that free will even when we make a mess of our lives. So bargaining with God is not appropriate. It doesn't work.

Except, perhaps, in the case of Abraham. Sodom and Gomorrah were bywords for evil in the ancient world. They were cities known to be full of corruption, although it isn't exactly clear just what form that corruption took. Although Israelite tradition all agreed that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was the inevitable result of their wicked ways, the tradition failed to agree about the nature of that wickedness.

The account in Genesis which follows today's story of Abraham bargaining with God, believes the sin to have been homosexuality, hence the term, "sodomy" (Genesis 19:4-5). But other writers have different ideas. Isaiah, with his emphasis on social justice, believes the sin to have been a lack of social justice (Isaiah 1:9-10 and Isaiah 3:9). Ezekiel has a similar belief, describing Sodom and Gomorrah's sin as a "disregard for the poor" (Ezekiel 16:46-51). And Jeremiah sees the sin in terms of a general immorality (Jeremiah 23:14).

Since the writer of Genesis gives us such a lurid and horrific account of the proposed treatment of strangers who were visiting Abraham's nephew Lot, the idea of sodomy as the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah is the idea which has taken root in the human psyche. And since the strangers turned out to be angels, the account becomes even more shocking and one which is remembered in the best tabloid newspaper style. The dreadful way in which the men of Sodom wished to "use" the strangers makes a startling contrast to the hospitality which Abraham showed to strangers who visited him beneath the oaks of Mamre and who also turned out to be angels.

It is astonishing to our modern western ears that Abraham actually dared to bargain with God in such a brazen way, but perhaps even more astonishing that God responded. In the event, God was apparently unable to find even ten good people in the city, so the city suffered its inevitable fate of destruction. So one reason for the bargaining is that Abraham's ploy of bargaining with God serves to highlight the terrible wickedness of the city.

But also, that sort of bargaining is an integral part of eastern life, even today. On a visit to the Holy Land some years ago, I was in a large store in Jericho buying some leather sandals. The price was cheap so I paid immediately, but to my surprise and consternation discovered that I had offended the shopkeeper, who became really angry and disgusted with me. Our guide explained afterwards that I should have bargained with the shopkeeper. By not bargaining with him I had completely spoiled his entertainment and was regarded as a very rude and unpleasant foreigner.

So as well as bargaining with God, Abraham is sharing with God in a particularly intimate and entertaining way. It's clear from this story that Abraham was very close to God and the bargaining technique serves as a means of cementing his friendship with God. A result of this closeness to God is the way in which Abraham's obedience to God and his faith in God increase to legendary proportions, so that Abraham is regarded through the ages as the archetypal figure of outstanding faith.

So perhaps what we can take from this story today is the realisation that we can be so close to God that we can talk to him as if he were a friend. We probably can't offend God whatever we say, because taking umbrage is not part of God's response to human beings. And the closer we grow towards God, then, like Abraham, the greater our faith.
UPCOMING WEEKS
In addition to the lectionary resources there are thousands of non-lectionary, scripture based resources...
Christ the King Sunday
29 – Sermons
160+ – Illustrations / Stories
27 – Children's Sermons / Resources
20 – Worship Resources
29 – Commentary / Exegesis
4 – Pastor's Devotions
and more...
Thanksgiving
14 – Sermons
80+ – Illustrations / Stories
18 – Children's Sermons / Resources
10 – Worship Resources
18 – Commentary / Exegesis
4 – Pastor's Devotions
and more...
Advent 1
30 – Sermons
90+ – Illustrations / Stories
33 – Children's Sermons / Resources
20 – Worship Resources
29 – Commentary / Exegesis
4 – Pastor's Devotions
and more...
Plus thousands of non-lectionary, scripture based resources...

New & Featured This Week

The Immediate Word

Christopher Keating
Thomas Willadsen
Katy Stenta
Mary Austin
Nazish Naseem
Dean Feldmeyer
George Reed
For November 30, 2025:
  • Time Change by Chris Keating. The First Sunday of Advent invites God’s people to tell time differently. While the secular Christmas machine keeps rolling, the church is called to a time of waiting and remaining alert.
  • Second Thoughts: What Time Is It? by Tom Willadsen based on Isaiah 2:1-5, Psalm 122, Romans 13:11-14, Matthew 24:36-44.

Emphasis Preaching Journal

Mark Ellingsen
Bill Thomas
Frank Ramirez
Deuteronomy 26:1-11
According to Martin Luther our thanksgiving is brought about only by justification by grace:

But bringing of tithes denotes that we are wholly given to the service of the neighbor through love…  This, however, does not happen unless, being first justified by faith. (Luther’s Works, Vol.9, p.255)

The Reformer also wants us to be happy, what with all the generous gifts we have been given.  He wrote:
Wayne Brouwer
A schoolteacher asked her students to make a list of the things for which they were thankful. Right at the top of Chad’s list was the word “glasses.” Some children resent having to wear glasses, but evidently not Chad! She asked him about it. Why was he thankful that he wore glasses?

“Well,” he said, “my glasses keep the boys from hitting me and the girls from kissing me.”

The philosopher Eric Hoffer says, “The hardest arithmetic to master is that which enables us to count our blessings!” That’s true, isn’t it?
William H. Shepherd
Christianity is, among other things, an intellectual quest. The curriculum to know God truly. The lesson plans interact creatively with other aspects of faith: worship is vain if not grounded in truth, while service is misguided if based on faulty premises. While faith certainly cannot be reduced to knowledge, it cannot be divorced from it, either.

StoryShare

John E. Sumwalt
The Lord is near. Do not worry about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. (v. 6)

We just received word about the passing of our friend, Rosmarie Trapp. We had lost touch with her in recent years, so I was shocked when I stumbled onto her obituary in The New York Times from May 18, 2022.
David E. Leininger
John Jamison
Contents
What's Up This Week
"The Reason for the Season" by David Leininger
"Time's Up" by John Jamison


What's Up This Week

CSSPlus

John Jamison
Object: The activity for this message is the Be Thank You! game.

* * *

The Village Shepherd

Janice B. Scott
Rosemary was 33 years old. She'd been married to James for four years and they had two children, Sam who was two and the baby, Elizabeth, who was just three weeks old. Apart from the baby blues and extreme fatigue, both of which got her down a bit when James was at work, Rosemary was happy. They had recently moved to the London suburbs and James commuted each day by train.

SermonStudio

Carlos Wilton
This brief psalm is among the most familiar in the psalter, but that is primarily because its verses have been excerpted in so many hymns and liturgical texts. There is something to be gained from looking at Psalm 100 in its entirety, and trying to recover its ancient liturgical context.

James Evans
"Pray for the peace of Jerusalem" (v. 6). What better way could there be for us to begin the Advent season than by focusing our prayers on peace? The word, shalom, translated "peace," means much more than the mere absence of conflict. And of course, it is not only Jerusalem that is in need of peace; the whole world needs the shalom that the psalmist dreams about. So perhaps we should expand the breadth of this prayer, and deepen it with our awareness of the various meanings of the Hebrew idea of peace.

John R. Brokhoff
THE LESSONS

Lesson 1: Isaiah 2:1--5 (C, RC, E)
Tony S. Everett
A popular skit at church camps involves about a dozen folks lined up side-by-side, looking anxious and frustrated facing the audience. Each person rests a left elbow on the right shoulder of their neighbor. Then, from left to right, each member asks, "Is it time yet?" When the question arrives at the end of the line, the last person looks at his/her wristwatch and responds, "No." This reply is passed, one-by-one each with bored sighs, back to the first questioner. After a few moments, the same question is passed down the line (left elbows remaining on the right shoulders).
Linda Schiphorst Mccoy
Just a few days before writing this message, I conducted a memorial service for a 60-year-old man who was the picture of health until three months before his death. He was active, vibrant, only recently retired, and looking forward to years of good life with his wife and family and friends. Nonetheless, pancreatic cancer had done its work, and quickly, and he was gone. It was the general consensus that it was too soon for his life to end; he was too young to die.
John W. Clarke
In this the sixth chapter of John's Gospel, Jesus begins to withdraw to the east side of the Sea of Galilee. He has fed the 5,000, and he has walked on water. The press of the crowds had become all consuming and he needs some solitude to prepare himself for what lay ahead. Considering that the crowds that followed him more than likely knew of the feeding of the 5,000, and some may even have heard of the miraculous walking on water, it is difficult to explain why in these verses, they would doubt anything he had to say -- but they do.
Robert R. Kopp
My favorite eighth grader just confessed his aspiration for becoming President of the United States.

When I foolishly asked the inspiration of his lofty goal, he replied, "Bill Clinton." Then my hormone-raging adolescent proceeded to list perceived presidential perks that have nothing to do with God or country.

My prayer list has been altered.

And my attitude about prayer in public schools has changed too.

I used to be against prayer in public schools.
John E. Berger
Thanksgiving, according to one newspaper columnist, has kept its original meaning better than any other holiday. That original meaning, he wrote, was family reunions around large dinner tables.

In contrast, Christmas has changed into Santa Claus and Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. Easter has come to emphasize new spring clothes and the Easter bunny. Even our national holidays -- Memorial Day, Fourth of July, and Labor Day -- have become cook-outs and summer travel get-aways.
Mark Ellingson
Thanksgiving: How do we say thanks authentically and not lapse into the platitudes so often associated with this holiday? There are several dangers associated with the holiday. Ever since it was instituted as a national holiday by Abraham Lincoln, and even before when various state governors instituted it in their states, Thanksgiving has not been a strictly Christian holiday. There has been a lot of nationalism and self-congratulations associated with this day. What is the distinctively Christian way to give thanks to God for all the good things that we have?

Special Occasion

Wildcard SSL