Pontius Pilate, Pragmatic
Biblical Studies
At Odds With God
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Pontius Pilate's problem is that he is so practical, so cold-
blooded, that he can ask, "What is truth," and never see it
standing right before his eyes.
(Please read Luke 13:1-5; Mark 15:1-15;
John 18:28--19:16; 1 Timothy 6:13)
Pontius Pilate
The historian Josephus records that Pilate was replaced as
Procurator of Judea for having executed Samaritan leaders who
sought sacred vessels supposedly stored on Mount Gerizim since
the days of Moses. Complaint was made to the Roman legate,
Vitellius, and Pilate was sent in shame to Rome.
Christian tradition has it that Paul was imprisoned and later
martyred in Rome. The setting for this dialogue supposes that
Paul and Pilate meet in a Roman prison cell.
Paul: Let me ask the traditional prison question: What are you
"in" for?
Pontius: As I see it, I am "in for" considerable trouble with my
superiors. They judged me wrongly. All I did was persecute the
leaders of a Samaritan revolt. Now I am sent back from Judea, and
sit here in shame like you.
Paul: I, like you, was in trouble with my superior. However,
unlike you, I am not ashamed. You see, my superior judged me
rightly not wrongly. I had been persecuting him and he
"corrected" me. He reprimanded me by striking me from my donkey
and temporarily blinding me. I have since served him and now I am
sent here, not in shame for me, but in glory to him.
Pontius: My superiors are the Roman Imperial Army and my emperor.
I served them, and now their glory sends me shamefully here. Who
is the superior you serve so bravely?
Paul: God. Jesus of Nazareth.
Pontius: Good God! I met him once. That Jesus! He once stood
right before me: "Ecce homo; behold the man," I said.
Paul: Oh, he was more than mere man even then. However, I never
saw him in the flesh. I only heard his voice and saw the bright
light. Instead of my seeing the man he was, he saw me as the man
I am -- a sinner, who trusted my own goodness while doubting
God's: a persecutor of God the king.
Pontius: I asked him if he were the King of the Jews.
Paul: What did he say?
Pontius: He told me I'd said so. Tricky answer.
Paul: I don't think he is so tricky as he is honest. I've found
that his honesty makes you honest enough to tell the truth about
yourself and about him. Now that can be "tricky;" to tell that
truth.
Pontius: Then I'll ask you what I asked him -- "What is truth?"
Paul: That's the wrong way to ask the question ...
Pontius: What do you mean? How else would you find the truth?
Paul: I don't think it's appropriate to ask "what" is truth, when
"who" is truth asks the question more fully.
Pontius: Who? Jesus is the truth?
Paul: Yes. Think back. What did Jesus say exactly that made you
ask your question concerning truth?
Pontius: I couldn't forget that. He said, "You say that I am a
king. For this I was born, and for this I came into the world to
testify to the truth. Everyone who belongs to the truth listens
to my voice."
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Paul: So, listen to him. Jesus is the truth as you listen to his
voice; truth personified. Truth no longer a mere intellectual
premise -- but a personal relationship. Think of the depth of
one's commitment to people, not a premise. You can never "belong"
to some bloodless virtue called "truth." But you can belong to
someone who is "true" and is "truth" himself. After all, a Roman
legionnaire doesn't die for Rome in the abstract, but for his
fellow Roman legionnaires.
Pontius: Whatever truth he had died with him. That is not a very
practical truth and being a practical man is what made me a good
governor. Being a practical man allowed me to let the Jews kill a
troublemaker and get my problem solved. But as for this dead
"king" having held a truth as messiah, well a dead truth is as
good as a lie, and I think he is probably a lie as well.
Paul: (Angry) Can truth die? Did Jesus die? His was the voice I
heard after his death. He reprimanded me for persecuting him and
his followers. He showed me the truth of his holiness, of my sin,
and of the forgiveness he won for me through his death.
Pontius: So, you mean to tell me this troublesome truth continues
on from the grave?
Paul: More than that, more than just teachable truth continues; he himself lives even though he died, he conquers death, he is the way, the truth and the life.
Pontius: This is all very well, inspiring even. But practically
speaking, I just don't see the point of it all.
Paul: The point? Jesus Christ conquering death for you? You don't
see the point?
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Pontius: Let me be blunt: You're here with me in this crummy
cell. People still suffer. People still die. You're likely to die
very soon. Even if we know the truth, what practical good will it
do us now?
Paul: I once wrote to the church here in Rome about this mystery:
"As it is written, 'For thy sake we are being killed all the day
long; we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.' No, in all
these things we are more than conquerors ..."
Pontius: Conquerors? How ...
Paul: I'm not through yet ... "We are more than conquerors
through him who loved us. For I am sure that neither death, nor
life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor
things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor anything
else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love
of God in Christ Jesus our Lord."
Pontius: I hear the guards coming. You believe that this is the
truth, eh? You better be right.
Paul: My point is, Jesus is right. "I am speaking the truth in
Christ, I am not lying ..."
Pontius: I wonder which of us will find out first whether or not
you live a lie? Which one of us will die first? Will I be first
because I misread the truth of the King of the Jews and the wrong
man was killed? Or will it be you because of your insistence that
the right man died?
Paul: If you are correct in your doubt, neither of us will ever
know. If I'm right -- that is, if God is right -- and I believe
he is -- then it's best to be on the side of truth and faith in
Christ. Otherwise, you will be in for a sad surprise ...
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Pontius: Nothing surprises me more than my actually listening to
your gibberish. God's love in a prison cell is a surprise indeed,
a lot like the surprise of having the King of the Jews standing
next to me while I turn him over to a largely Jewish mob who then
kills him. If there's a "truth" that I discovered in this cell
tonight, Paul, it's that your impractical God surprises me too
much for me to believe in him.
Questions About The Story
Questions For You
(This dialogue is fictional, based on the scripture quotations
found in it. However, the basic conflict between God's will and
the will of humanity is not fictional. You will be asked
questions based on this conflict and see your conflict with God
as real because: You're real and God is real.)
1. How did being practical help Pontius in his life?
2. How would being practical help Paul?
3. How would being practical hurt Paul?
4. How does being practical help you in your life?
5. How does it hurt you?
6. What is the "ultimate truth" for you?
7. How do you live this truth?
8. How is God's love in Christ part of your living this truth?
Reflection By A Famous Christian On:
Pragmatism
"Do not deceive yourselves. If you think that you are wise in
this age, you should become fools so that you may become wise.
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God ... For all
things are yours -- all belong to you and you belong to Christ,
and Christ belongs to God.
-- Paul from 1 Corinthians 3:18-23 (excerpts)
A Prayer Starter
Dear Christ my Savior, your love does not seem very practical.
The wisdom of the world is cynical and selfish and seems
successful. The practical truth is that love seems to fail so
often in my life, in the nightly news, in history. And, the sad
truth is that I don't deserve your love because I have sinned.
But, the happy truth is that you still give me your love
because you are my God who is love. Your love is impractical,
self-sacrificing and eternal. You send the Holy Spirit to me to
lead me in this truth and comfort me with this truth. Guide me to
live the truth of God's love in your name. Help me to practice
this love.
Suggestions For Practicing Your Prayer
1. God is love. The Holy Spirit is God's breath of life to you. Take a deep breath. Hold it. Think of a fun and impractical act of love for someone before you exhale. Did I surprise you? Take another deep breath of God and try again ...
2. Do you decide to spend time on practical "tasks" or on
"relationships?" How do you make this decision?
3. Have you ever considered a "task," a "relationship" or vice
versa?
4. How is going to church a "task" for you? Prayer? Tithing?
Scripture study? Which do you consider part of a living
relationship with God and God's people?
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A Suggested Order Of Worship For Pontius Pilate, Pragmatic
(Note: You may want to break into small groups for discussion of
the story and then join together again for the closing worship.
If so, select discussion leaders to help people reflect on the
questions in the book. Or, you may want to stay together and
reflect silently as the questions are read.)
Opening: Greeting and introduction of "The Conflict Of The Will:
Our Doubt Of God Became Flesh Among Us."
Hymns: "What Child Is This" or "Oh Come, Oh Come Emmanuel"
Read: Introduction to Chapter Four, page 41
Reading: Luke 13:1-5; Mark 15:1-15; John 18:28--19:16; 1 Timothy
6:13
Meditation: Pontius Pilate, Pragmatic
Discussion: Break into discussion groups and follow "Questions
About The Story/Questions For You" or read aloud for group silent
reflection. When finished, quietly return to worship setting.
Read: "Reflections By A Famous Christian"
Read: "Prayer Starter"
Invitation: Invite people to add their own prayers
Read: "Suggestions For Practicing Your Prayer"
The Lord's Prayer
The Apostles' Creed
Hymns: "Take My Life That I May Be" or "Rock Of Ages"
Benediction And Dismissal: "Go in peace and serve the Lord."
blooded, that he can ask, "What is truth," and never see it
standing right before his eyes.
(Please read Luke 13:1-5; Mark 15:1-15;
John 18:28--19:16; 1 Timothy 6:13)
Pontius Pilate
The historian Josephus records that Pilate was replaced as
Procurator of Judea for having executed Samaritan leaders who
sought sacred vessels supposedly stored on Mount Gerizim since
the days of Moses. Complaint was made to the Roman legate,
Vitellius, and Pilate was sent in shame to Rome.
Christian tradition has it that Paul was imprisoned and later
martyred in Rome. The setting for this dialogue supposes that
Paul and Pilate meet in a Roman prison cell.
Paul: Let me ask the traditional prison question: What are you
"in" for?
Pontius: As I see it, I am "in for" considerable trouble with my
superiors. They judged me wrongly. All I did was persecute the
leaders of a Samaritan revolt. Now I am sent back from Judea, and
sit here in shame like you.
Paul: I, like you, was in trouble with my superior. However,
unlike you, I am not ashamed. You see, my superior judged me
rightly not wrongly. I had been persecuting him and he
"corrected" me. He reprimanded me by striking me from my donkey
and temporarily blinding me. I have since served him and now I am
sent here, not in shame for me, but in glory to him.
Pontius: My superiors are the Roman Imperial Army and my emperor.
I served them, and now their glory sends me shamefully here. Who
is the superior you serve so bravely?
Paul: God. Jesus of Nazareth.
Pontius: Good God! I met him once. That Jesus! He once stood
right before me: "Ecce homo; behold the man," I said.
Paul: Oh, he was more than mere man even then. However, I never
saw him in the flesh. I only heard his voice and saw the bright
light. Instead of my seeing the man he was, he saw me as the man
I am -- a sinner, who trusted my own goodness while doubting
God's: a persecutor of God the king.
Pontius: I asked him if he were the King of the Jews.
Paul: What did he say?
Pontius: He told me I'd said so. Tricky answer.
Paul: I don't think he is so tricky as he is honest. I've found
that his honesty makes you honest enough to tell the truth about
yourself and about him. Now that can be "tricky;" to tell that
truth.
Pontius: Then I'll ask you what I asked him -- "What is truth?"
Paul: That's the wrong way to ask the question ...
Pontius: What do you mean? How else would you find the truth?
Paul: I don't think it's appropriate to ask "what" is truth, when
"who" is truth asks the question more fully.
Pontius: Who? Jesus is the truth?
Paul: Yes. Think back. What did Jesus say exactly that made you
ask your question concerning truth?
Pontius: I couldn't forget that. He said, "You say that I am a
king. For this I was born, and for this I came into the world to
testify to the truth. Everyone who belongs to the truth listens
to my voice."
43
Paul: So, listen to him. Jesus is the truth as you listen to his
voice; truth personified. Truth no longer a mere intellectual
premise -- but a personal relationship. Think of the depth of
one's commitment to people, not a premise. You can never "belong"
to some bloodless virtue called "truth." But you can belong to
someone who is "true" and is "truth" himself. After all, a Roman
legionnaire doesn't die for Rome in the abstract, but for his
fellow Roman legionnaires.
Pontius: Whatever truth he had died with him. That is not a very
practical truth and being a practical man is what made me a good
governor. Being a practical man allowed me to let the Jews kill a
troublemaker and get my problem solved. But as for this dead
"king" having held a truth as messiah, well a dead truth is as
good as a lie, and I think he is probably a lie as well.
Paul: (Angry) Can truth die? Did Jesus die? His was the voice I
heard after his death. He reprimanded me for persecuting him and
his followers. He showed me the truth of his holiness, of my sin,
and of the forgiveness he won for me through his death.
Pontius: So, you mean to tell me this troublesome truth continues
on from the grave?
Paul: More than that, more than just teachable truth continues; he himself lives even though he died, he conquers death, he is the way, the truth and the life.
Pontius: This is all very well, inspiring even. But practically
speaking, I just don't see the point of it all.
Paul: The point? Jesus Christ conquering death for you? You don't
see the point?
44
Pontius: Let me be blunt: You're here with me in this crummy
cell. People still suffer. People still die. You're likely to die
very soon. Even if we know the truth, what practical good will it
do us now?
Paul: I once wrote to the church here in Rome about this mystery:
"As it is written, 'For thy sake we are being killed all the day
long; we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.' No, in all
these things we are more than conquerors ..."
Pontius: Conquerors? How ...
Paul: I'm not through yet ... "We are more than conquerors
through him who loved us. For I am sure that neither death, nor
life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor
things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor anything
else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love
of God in Christ Jesus our Lord."
Pontius: I hear the guards coming. You believe that this is the
truth, eh? You better be right.
Paul: My point is, Jesus is right. "I am speaking the truth in
Christ, I am not lying ..."
Pontius: I wonder which of us will find out first whether or not
you live a lie? Which one of us will die first? Will I be first
because I misread the truth of the King of the Jews and the wrong
man was killed? Or will it be you because of your insistence that
the right man died?
Paul: If you are correct in your doubt, neither of us will ever
know. If I'm right -- that is, if God is right -- and I believe
he is -- then it's best to be on the side of truth and faith in
Christ. Otherwise, you will be in for a sad surprise ...
45
Pontius: Nothing surprises me more than my actually listening to
your gibberish. God's love in a prison cell is a surprise indeed,
a lot like the surprise of having the King of the Jews standing
next to me while I turn him over to a largely Jewish mob who then
kills him. If there's a "truth" that I discovered in this cell
tonight, Paul, it's that your impractical God surprises me too
much for me to believe in him.
Questions About The Story
Questions For You
(This dialogue is fictional, based on the scripture quotations
found in it. However, the basic conflict between God's will and
the will of humanity is not fictional. You will be asked
questions based on this conflict and see your conflict with God
as real because: You're real and God is real.)
1. How did being practical help Pontius in his life?
2. How would being practical help Paul?
3. How would being practical hurt Paul?
4. How does being practical help you in your life?
5. How does it hurt you?
6. What is the "ultimate truth" for you?
7. How do you live this truth?
8. How is God's love in Christ part of your living this truth?
Reflection By A Famous Christian On:
Pragmatism
"Do not deceive yourselves. If you think that you are wise in
this age, you should become fools so that you may become wise.
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God ... For all
things are yours -- all belong to you and you belong to Christ,
and Christ belongs to God.
-- Paul from 1 Corinthians 3:18-23 (excerpts)
A Prayer Starter
Dear Christ my Savior, your love does not seem very practical.
The wisdom of the world is cynical and selfish and seems
successful. The practical truth is that love seems to fail so
often in my life, in the nightly news, in history. And, the sad
truth is that I don't deserve your love because I have sinned.
But, the happy truth is that you still give me your love
because you are my God who is love. Your love is impractical,
self-sacrificing and eternal. You send the Holy Spirit to me to
lead me in this truth and comfort me with this truth. Guide me to
live the truth of God's love in your name. Help me to practice
this love.
Suggestions For Practicing Your Prayer
1. God is love. The Holy Spirit is God's breath of life to you. Take a deep breath. Hold it. Think of a fun and impractical act of love for someone before you exhale. Did I surprise you? Take another deep breath of God and try again ...
2. Do you decide to spend time on practical "tasks" or on
"relationships?" How do you make this decision?
3. Have you ever considered a "task," a "relationship" or vice
versa?
4. How is going to church a "task" for you? Prayer? Tithing?
Scripture study? Which do you consider part of a living
relationship with God and God's people?
48
A Suggested Order Of Worship For Pontius Pilate, Pragmatic
(Note: You may want to break into small groups for discussion of
the story and then join together again for the closing worship.
If so, select discussion leaders to help people reflect on the
questions in the book. Or, you may want to stay together and
reflect silently as the questions are read.)
Opening: Greeting and introduction of "The Conflict Of The Will:
Our Doubt Of God Became Flesh Among Us."
Hymns: "What Child Is This" or "Oh Come, Oh Come Emmanuel"
Read: Introduction to Chapter Four, page 41
Reading: Luke 13:1-5; Mark 15:1-15; John 18:28--19:16; 1 Timothy
6:13
Meditation: Pontius Pilate, Pragmatic
Discussion: Break into discussion groups and follow "Questions
About The Story/Questions For You" or read aloud for group silent
reflection. When finished, quietly return to worship setting.
Read: "Reflections By A Famous Christian"
Read: "Prayer Starter"
Invitation: Invite people to add their own prayers
Read: "Suggestions For Practicing Your Prayer"
The Lord's Prayer
The Apostles' Creed
Hymns: "Take My Life That I May Be" or "Rock Of Ages"
Benediction And Dismissal: "Go in peace and serve the Lord."

